xp12d -- IMPRESSIVE --

[12listen4]

We had a customer last week that had been to another shop around and purchaced a Pioneer 3004 12" . In 2 days he poped 3 subs. He came by the shop to see what we could do for him and I put him into an Exile xp12d. He had an Audio enhancers single 12 slot ported enclosure and using a Bazooka 500.1 . The exile was much louder right off the bat and he kinda laughed and said we will see if lasts through the night. That was wed and I called him sat evening to see how it was going. The first thing he told me was that he actually tried to blow the sub after he left just to proove a point. He is bringing his girlfriends car by today to get one for her.

GREAT PRODUCT GUYS.

Herbert Wenck
Advanced Audio and Tinting
Madisonville, TN

[merlin77]

he'll do well to blow one of them if its set up properly

ive had one clippin to death to see how it would go( for about 20 mins ) took the spankin and is still goin strong


aparrently if i remember correctly from the training with bill the sub is designed to slow down mechanicaly when clipped and the cooling is that good on em the rubber boot is not just cosmetic its to slow down the air movin over the voice coil

good to see the exile product is blowin away everyone who comes into contact with them

[rob]

he'll do well to blow one of them if its set up properly

ive had one clippin to death to see how it would go( for about 20 mins ) took the spankin and is still goin strong


aparrently if i remember correctly from the training with bill the sub is designed to slow down mechanicaly when clipped and the cooling is that good on em the rubber boot is not just cosmetic its to slow down the air movin over the voice coil

good to see the exile product is blowin away everyone who comes into contact with them

this doesnt make sense to me.. more airflow across the coil = better cooling.. why would you want to slow down the air moving through the coil?

[merlin77]

he'll do well to blow one of them if its set up properly

ive had one clippin to death to see how it would go( for about 20 mins ) took the spankin and is still goin strong


aparrently if i remember correctly from the training with bill the sub is designed to slow down mechanicaly when clipped and the cooling is that good on em the rubber boot is not just cosmetic its to slow down the air movin over the voice coil

good to see the exile product is blowin away everyone who comes into contact with them

this doesnt make sense to me.. more airflow across the coil = better cooling.. why would you want to slow down the air moving through the coil?

not sure of the exact sciance sure morgan will explain bit the air was so fast it didnt have time to absorb the heat or somthin like that as i said if i remember correctly was a lot to remember that day

[Morgan@Exile]

Rob,

Airflow is a little more complicated than just "moving air". We did some pretty intense heat analysis on the motor structure, airflow, and venting on all of our drivers.

The moral of the story is just "moving more air" through the motor structure isn't always effective.

Let me give you an everyday example, blowing out a candle. If you cup your hand and put it behind the flame a candle is much easier to blow out.

By controlling the air flow, you can redirect the intensity or cooling effectiveness. Now its definately a little more complicated in a woofer, but same principles of physics apply.

[merlin77]

Rob,

Airflow is a little more complicated than just "moving air". We did some pretty intense heat analysis on the motor structure, airflow, and venting on all of our drivers.

The moral of the story is just "moving more air" through the motor structure isn't always effective.

Let me give you an everyday example, blowing out a candle. If you cup your hand and put it behind the flame a candle is much easier to blow out.

By controlling the air flow, you can redirect the intensity or cooling effectiveness. Now its definately a little more complicated in a woofer, but same principles of physics apply.

this is what i was on about just no good at putting it in to words

but these thing s are awsome for the price i like to sell em

[rob]

after giving it more thought, I realized that there is a point where airflow has diminishing returns..

for example, in a heat pump (which is a pretty good analogy to a speaker)

the more air you have flowing across the coils, the lower your delta will be, less airflow= higher delta.. its just about finding the right spot.

though in a speaker, obviously airflow through the coil is dependant on more than just the cfm of the fan, as its constantly changing.

[Audiophiliac]

In the case of the speaker, the airflow is directly related to the heat being produced. The more the assembly moves, the more heat it creates, and the more airflow it creates to cool itself. Ambient temperature probably also has an effect on the efficiency and thermal properties of the voice coil as well. The whole assembly actually would be effected to a degree at extreme temperatures, hot or cold.

I would think in a super hot car, the surround might become more compliant, and the suspension as well, and this may allow a hair more coil travel in the gap. This may or may not have negative effects, depending on the design of the woofer. Extreme cold will stiffen the moving parts and add resistance, both mechanical and electrical ( as they are related here).

At any rate, I am just trying to sound like I know what I am talking about. I will shortly have a new Exile system to enjoy and try and blow up!

[merlin77]

me to i would just like my exile x5 and the 8 xp 12" im gonna put in a van to show if exile at my shop, local cruise, iasca and car show's i go to

so come on morgan whaen can i have my amps

or should i just come collect em (expenses paid of course)

[Morgan@Exile]

Merlin,

As you know the E.U. is a PITA sometimes...

We are in final stages of safety approval mandated by E.U. laws. They are already built, as soon as I get the thumbs up they are on their way to you....

[merlin77]

Merlin,

As you know the E.U. is a PITA sometimes...

We are in final stages of safety approval mandated by E.U. laws. They are already built, as soon as I get the thumbs up they are on their way to you....

eu are a pain in the arse wish we'd never joined stickkin there nose into everything we do here in the uk

but great news

in off to look at a van this weekend

8 xp's should be about right off one of those x5 shouldn't it

i have already got 2 odysey pc 1700 batteries to hook up for power
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc1700t.htm

any other help greatly aprretiated
ie box size's etc

[Morgan@Exile]

Merlin,

8 XP12's is perfect for the X5, except you better make them DVCs to get it down to 1 ohm...

Those odyssey batteries are very impressive, I have used them on numerous setups in the past and they are very tough. Best battery I have ever used to date...

[UNIQUE1]

i have an x5 if you need it.

thanks morgan, still havent used it yet.

unique

[Morgan@Exile]

Put that sucker to use...

[Rave@ExileTrinidad]

did u ever got around to the x5 man

want to know your views ..